Do you have a really big project? I know a director at a Swiss Bank:
Private Swiss Trust seeks Global Projects for Funding
We seek worthy global projects to fund through our proprietary funding model.
project size: $600M-$5Bn
We seek the following principal individuals or companies:
1. capital investors with under funded large projects.
2. large project stakeholders with significant interest from private capital sources.
3. intermediaries with a proven contractual representation agreement with their introduced principal.
Please note that we focus on the following
1.Alternative energy
2.Energy related and energy infrastructure;storage,refineries
3.Bio Pharma
4.Large scale real estate in Central and South America.
We require that projects have at least 10-20% capital backing through current cash investor participation .NO SBLC,BG or any other bank instrument is required. We are the direct funding source. There are no fees connected with our participation
Serious replies,by direct principals with an attached ex sum.
[8:30:10 AM] I am a director of the funding group. I have a dim view of dealing with anyone but a direct cash investor or project principal
[8:30:41 AM] after several yrs I have come to the conclusion that only real business derals between principals work
[8:30:57 AM] and that intermediary driven deals are imaginary
[8:31:47 AM] be prepared to show a direct relationship to a principal and not another “advisor”
we do not do diligence with anybody but real clients in Zurich meetings
[8:35:20 AM] this is a collateral first deal
[8:35:32 AM] the client must prove up to us
[8:36:13 AM] that he has the required entry ticket
[8:36:17 AM] to a meeting
no it is a grant with no repayment
[8:37:00 AM] : we may take a small equity piece from the finished project
[8:37:08 AM] there is no upfront fees
thank you.
Mitch F.
Here’s the string from Sunday September 26, 2010:
[8:21:03 AM] Joe Tufo: Have you funded many $500m projects? How much cash do they need to have to qualify? Which bank instruments are you using? How long to fund?
[8:22:36 AM] we are funding things,as we have credible cash investors that bring them forward
[8:23:10 AM] I will offer $600MM against $100MM
[8:23:17 AM] Joe Tufo: What types of projects do you like to see? Can you send the underwriting guidelines?
[8:23:32 AM] we are not using or do we accept bank instrumebnts in lieu of cash
[8:23:52 AM] there is no one specific project type however
[8:23:56 AM] Joe Tufo: $100m cash 6:1 leverage is a guideline?
[8:24:29 AM] Private Swiss Trust seeks Global Projects for Funding
We seek worthy global projects to fund through our proprietary funding model.
project size: $600M-$5Bn
We seek the following principal individuals or companies:
1. capital investors with under funded large projects.
2. large project stakeholders with significant interest from private capital sources.
3. intermediaries with a proven contractual representation agreement with their introduced principal.
Please note that we focus on the following
1.Alternative energy
2.Energy related and energy infrastructure;storage,refineries
3.Bio Pharma
4.Large scale real estate in Central and South America.
We require that projects have at least 10-20% capital backing through current cash investor participation .NO SBLC,BG or any other bank instrument is required.We are the direct funding source. There are no fees connected with our participation
Serious replies,by direct principals with an attached ex sum.
contact us at the email address provided
thank you.
[8:24:55 AM] no, the 6:1 is not necessarily the guideline
[8:25:04 AM] depends on the cash investment
[8:25:17 AM] and the desire of the trust to do the project
[8:30:10 AM] I am a director of the funding group. I have a dim view of dealing with anyone but a direct cash investor or project principal
[8:30:41 AM] after several yrs I have come to the conclusion that only real business derals between principals work
[8:30:57 AM] and that intermediary driven deals are imaginary
[8:31:47 AM] be prepared to show a direct relationship to a principal and not anotehr “advisor”
[8:31:53 AM] thansk
[8:33:46 AM] Joe Tufo: Thank you. How many have you funded and how long does the process take? How much cash do they need, a minimum and a range would be good.
[8:34:29 AM] we do not do diligence with anybody but real clients in Zurich meetings
[8:35:05 AM] the blurb I send you shows a range from $600-$5BN that’s good for starters
[8:35:20 AM] this is a collateral first deal
[8:35:32 AM] the client must prove up to us
[8:36:13 AM] : that he has the required entry ticjket
[8:36:17 AM] to a meeting
[8:36:25 AM] Joe Tufo: Is it a loan or a JV, terms and conditions?
[8:36:37 AM] no it is a grant with no repayment
[8:37:00 AM] we may take a small equity piece from the finished project
[8:37:08 AM] there is no upfront fees
[8:37:51 AM] and money only moves after a meeting with signatory principals
[8:37:58 AM] : in Switzerland
[8:38:10 AM] I am one of the signatories to the agrements
[8:38:44 AM] there are no UPFRONT FEES
[8:39:50 AM] there can be 1-4 projects in the slate
[8:39:56 AM] totaling
[8:40:05 AM] the full funding amt
so an investor can diversify his projects to cover his ROI risk
[8:42:24 AM] on a standalone
[8:45:34 AM] Joe Tufo: How many have you funded and how long is the process?
[8:46:18 AM] that is due diligence material for Zurich and not discussed in the USA
[8:46:35 AM] with anyone who is not defined as a “clinet”
[8:46:40 AM] client
[8:46:59 AM] the process is over 1yr, or longer as we deem necessary
[8:47:21 AM] we are not commercial lenders
[8:48:47 AM] my policy is that need to know governs all these interactions
[8:49:12 AM] need to know is based on becoming a client of the trust
[8:49:25 AM] becoming a client is based on 2 things
[8:49:33 AM] our acceptance of the projects
[8:49:42 AM] and the client’s current nalance sheet
[8:49:50 AM] balance
[8:50:34 AM] and finally as this is collateral first
[8:50:42 AM] the client comes with a need
[8:50:47 AM] : and ability
[8:51:08 AM] to become a client
[8:51:38 AM] otehrwise this becomes an exercise in futile info gathering
[8:51:56 AM] which I will not tolerate or indulge
[8:52:30 AM] : you know better than to ask these kinds of questions to private Swiss banking
[8:52:57 AM] because of the nature of Swiss banking
[8:53:55 AM] so by definition, a lot of folks arer not qualified
[8:54:04 AM] a lot of folks will not come forward
[8:54:18 AM] and a lot of projects do not deserve this support
[8:55:27 AM] but the ones who deserve, can do, and are qualified do.
[8:55:33 AM] get it
[8:55:55 AM] my job is to pick those special ones out
[8:56:33 AM] I know this runs contrary to the logic of the average broker mind
[8:57:11 AM] because that mind exists in a false universe seeking help from deceitful people
[8:57:37 AM] after many hard hits, they develop a protective shield
[8:58:13 AM] : just as at the bottom of a market cycle it feels crazy to buy
[8:58:39 AM] but that is paradoxically ,with great intelligence
[8:58:46 AM] the way that it is set up
[8:59:02 AM] do you get it?
[8:59:45 AM] all the best,
[9:00:00 AM] : Mitch
[9:01:07 AM] : the question becomes how many people do we find capable?
[9:03:00 AM] Joe Tufo: Not many
[9:03:41 AM] right, but we seek the top of the pyramid, not the base
[9:04:59 AM] at the top of the pyramid the eye symbolically sits
[9:05:04 AM] : and not at its base
[9:07:23 AM] annuit coeptis
From Wikipedia:
Taken from the Latin words annuo (nod, approve) and cœpta(beginnings, undertakings), it is literally translated as “He approves (or has approved) [our] undertaking(s)”.[1]
[9:11:03 AM] it means approved undertakings
[9:11:03 AM] it means approved undertakings
[9:11:26 AM] favorable undertakings
[9:12:08 AM] sitting on top of the economic pyramid
[9:12:52 AM] favored by providence
This is worth thinking about: why does it take more than a year? Could it be that they are investing your $100m or whatever and placing it into trade? It’s just what I’ve been talking about: take your money, whatever it is and place it with one of our traders.
I’ve shown you an illustration of a client placing $1m in December 08 and having just over $14m in June 2010. What if you placed $10m? At $100m you’d have $1.4b enough to fund almost anything. By the way the minimum is $500k to place into the program. Past performance is no indication of future growth.
It just seems to me that it will take time to fund your project. Why not take baby steps? Start at $500k and grow it to $7m. Pull some money out say $2m and reinvest the $5m. In 18 months that may grow to $70m. Take out $50m and reinvest $20m. in 18 months that may grow to $280m. Repeat.
Using the above illustration $500k grows to $280m after 54 months and you have $52m you’ve used. That’s not a bad program. Past performance is no indication of future growth.
And there are no debts to pay and no equity partners unless you choose to bless me and I’ll take all the blessing that you have to give (Luke 6:38).
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